Bryan Liles is a senior staff engineer at VMware who leads the developer experience group, which focuses on improving Kubernetes productivity. Previously, Bryan worked as an engineer at Heptio, served as the director of Capital One’s cloud engineering team, worked as a cloud engineer at DigitalOcean, and was the CTO at Thunderbolt Labs, among other positions. Join Corey and Bryan as the explore what it’s like to be on the VMware engineering team, why Bryan spends a lot of his time conducting research, what Corey think the future of Kubernetes looks like and why Bryan agrees, why Twitter’s DM feature leaves much to be desired, what VMware is focusing on over the coming months and years, what Corey’s recipe for the best jokes looks like, how Bryan is focused on being “forever positive” and his advice for other people on taking control of their futures, how Bryan got fired from his first two jobs and what he learned from those experiences, and more.