Mark Curphey is the cofounder and Chief Product Officer at Open Raven, a data security visibility and compliance tool built for the cloud. Prior to this position, Mark was the founder and CEO of SourceClear, a software security company acquired by Veracode. Before that, he worked in software security and software development at Foundstone, a product unit manager at Microsoft, as an information security director at Schwab, among other positions. He's also the founder of the Open Web Application Security Project (OWASP). Join Corey and Mark as they talk about how security officers don't know where data is, don't know what data they have, and don't know how that data is being protected; how companies that manage other people's data have a massive obligation to protect it but few take that seriously; why Mark gave up trying to sell developers on the importance of security; what the OWASP is and the origin story behind it; the increasingly important role security will play in the data economy; Amazon Macie's terrible pricing story; and more.