Cloud security makes Josh Stella tick. In 2013, he founded Fugue, a company that brings native security and simplified operations to cloud architecture. Join Corey and Josh as they discuss why Fugue is called Fugue, how the approach hackers take has changed in recent years, why cloud security is actually more of a physics and biology problem than a technology problem, the recent Capital One data breach, how it likely happened, why the bank didn’t necessarily do anything wrong, why cloud security should be automated, and more.