Kendall Miller is the president at Fairwinds, a shop that helps teams optimize containerized apps and get the most out of Kubernetes that was formerly called ReactiveOps. He's also the host of Authority Issues, a podcast about leadership. Prior to these positions, Kendall was a sales consultant for Odyssey Industrial Solutions and also worked for an international non-profit based in China for 11 years. Join Corey and Kendall as they talk about their long-lasting friendship, why Kendall believes Corey should ditch the "cloud economist" moniker and go with "personality" instead, why Kendall believes you don't need operational excellence if your infrastructure is simple enough, what it's like to change a company's name and some lessons the Fairwinds team learned the hard way, how there comes a point in time where organizations eventually need Kubernetes, why Corey thinks there are three or four great reasons to run on Kubernetes and 5,000 terrible ones, and more.